You previously directed a Season 2 episode of The Boys, how did you get approached to tackle the final two installments of Season 3?

Sarah Boyd: They asked me back and said, “um, what’s your availability? We wanna make sure to fit you in.” And I said, “well, you know, what I would really love to do is the season finale.” They said, “sure let’s make it happen.” So it turned out to be a block. I didn’t know whether it’d be a single episode or two, but it was [the] final episodes. They wanted someone whose work they knew and trusted to do it. So sometimes that would be, Phil Sgriccia the producing director, but instead, they had him do the first block.

Episode 7 offers viewers unconventional storytelling methods in a show that’s already so unconventional. What was exciting about getting to tackle those aspects of Season 3?

Parts of Episode 7 were delving into Butcher’s backstory through his Mindstorm mind trap sequences and then Black Noir’s animated friends. Those were the most exciting to prep and think about how to make come to life. The animated sequences started quite early. I wasn’t even in Toronto yet. I wasn’t even technically working. And they were looping me into some initial concept discussions with the animation houses because we needed to get going really early. Also just finding that location was something we needed to do early as well. And we knew we needed to film it as early on in our block as possible.

So my first day of shooting was the live-action parts of the Black Noir sequence. It’s all part of Eric [Kripke]’s bizarre and fascinating imagination and of course the comics. But Eric just dove straight into this and this is a career-long ambition to do some animation. And this seems like the perfect way to do it and how wacky that Noir would have this kind of imaginary friends. So we talked a bit about how the animation would look, how they should be cute, but also have this really gross, violent, disturbing side to it.

What went into creating the animations? What was that process like as a director?

While we were doing the animation they were also prepping the Nicaragua scenes. They hadn’t actually shot those scenes when I started, even though they’re in prior episodes. So that was a, a significant week-long shoot that was delayed, I think, because of actor availability. So, it was a bit of a chicken and egg dance where when we were designing the backdrops, we wanted to make sure they were close enough to what Phil was going to be shooting so that it was clearly part of that memory [for Noir].

We could take creative license because it was animated and in Noir’s memory. Then doing the live-action our first day, we had long conversations about how to make the lighting work when the show is on versus when the show is off, and so we filmed that in two different looks.

Butcher’s flashbacks were also haunting in a different way. How did that come together and what was it like getting to capture one of the show’s more dramatic storylines?

It was a lot of work, a lot of work, but I think it really was quite successful. At first, I was like, this is wackadoodle crazy. And then I was like, it’s wackadoodle crazy and that’s perfect for the Butcher stuff. The Butcher sequence was, for me, one of the most satisfying sequences to bring to life. We talked a lot about how to have Butcher be able to be there, but have it be effective. There are other examples where people enter their own flashbacks in other TV shows and movies, and we wanted to differentiate it, and part of the reason is because it’s not a flashback, it’s a mind trap.

He’s trying in vain to talk some sense into his younger self or to reach out to his brother, but he’s a silent witness to these horrible things that he feels guilty about from his past.  So you visualize how to show that. He tries to open the door and he goes right through it. He tries to push his father, but he goes through it. We wanted to differentiate it from that a bit and have him be clearly there.

he real challenge was whether he would be in one environment and then he would suddenly be in another environment. And we did that. We took great pains to try to make that happen seamlessly with either a turn or with a visual effect where we literally did a slow dissolve with a visual effect. In the end, I always [wanted it] done editorially because I have an editing background and I had this strong feeling that it was going to end up being more effective editorially. And the editor really added lovely ideas.